[null,null,["上次更新時間:2025-07-25 (世界標準時間)。"],[],["Mustafa interviews Paul Lewis, a Google Developer Advocate, on the *Designer Vs Developer* podcast. They discuss whether talent is innate or developed, if designers and developers are self-limiting, and Lewis's media app, Shaka Player. The episode explores what it means for a developer to possess a design sensibility. The podcast is available on various platforms, including Spotify, iTunes, and Google Music, with video recordings on YouTube.\n"]]