[null,null,["最后更新时间 (UTC):2025-07-25。"],[],["Mustafa interviews Mat Scales from Google Developer Relations about the Dunning-Kruger effect and the value of some design knowledge. The discussion covers the Dunning-Kruger effect, cognitive bias, and designing VR experiences. Listeners can subscribe to the Designer Vs Developer podcast via various platforms and watch video recordings. Feedback is collected on the helpfulness of the information.\n"]]